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Sunday 11 January 2009

more questions than answers on Uksurvivors msg 41429 - will Bob run away from a mere woman ?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uksurvivors/message/41429


Re: I popped on here to just wish everyone a belated Happy New Year -



--- In uksurvivors@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" wrote:



>I'll number my responses for your ease 'Tuesday'
No need Bob – I notice your acerbic but not as abusive when you reply to me

> 1. Ha. Classic denial. Who was it that satarted all this
>crap 'Tuesday'?
Rattled Bob? Your spellings slipping - isn't that something you constantly call J (someone who has never hidden the fact he's dyslexic) stupid and a lot of other names for having a problem with – you do understand about the Disability Discrimination Act don't you?

And – who has denied what?

I can't make a denial on J's behalf - although I can comment on your lack of insight and knowledge

and

the fact that you are trawling the net in an obsessive manner that could be construed as stalking - another thing you persistently accuse J of.

Cataloguing and making comments on posts written some years ago - when he was withdrawing from several drugs he had been prescribed concurrently ---- not just one as you had too --– making no allowances for problems that would have caused -

then using those post to fuel your bullying harassment – say's a lot more about you than it does him - especially when you stoop low enough to involve details of his family!

Or are you still delusional about us being one and the same person and trying to tell everyone here that that I'm J making a denial?

Who started what?



In the UK ssrihelp4u was the first UK support board which I was moderator on before the Seroxat boards were opened.



Then Scott and Venns Seroxat boards were opened – Venns meta linked and with the lawyers backing and the lawyers started the litigation.



The animosity and bullying started on those two boards along with a "who has most members rating war" and an unhealthy "I'm more popular" contest between the owners.



Unfortunately some members who were introduced to the drug boards through these two boards have trailed the bullying animosity and the needy I'm more popular than you attitude around with them like a bad smell ever since.



I'm surprised you have to ask!


> I was born here so it shouldn't be.
Yes - but how many times have wished you were born in America where people can make a living out of being litigious?


>2. Awww, look at 'Tuesday' - check the dates out silly. One minute
>it's Effexor... 7 days later it's Seroxat. What's the matter with the
>simpleton? Can he not answer for himself?

And what's the matter with you?

>3.Nice one. You are even as deluded as he is... unless of course you
>are one of his multiple personalities?
Oh! You are still delusional about us being one and the same person -

I would have thought, that as you have been in contact with another UK board owner - whom you have resorted to bullying to try and get them to sever ties with J - that by now you would have established that I am not J –

obviously when you converse with that person your more intent – as usual - on getting your own way - than getting facts!!


>4. What is your interest in the 'case'?

Why does my interest matter?

There are six sorts of people interested in the case –

the pharmaceutical industry who will always look after their own interests and profits –

those like fringe politicians who have used the case to raise there own profile and dropped it once it was old news –

those like the lawyers who are lining there own pockets –

those like you who are litigious, looking for a big payout, well enough to shout louder than others, self-interested enough to step over and on others to make sure they are at the front of the queue, self-seeking enough to need to raise their own profile and want others to put them on a pedestal and give them adulation and awards for their work for the "cause"!!

and unfortunately those who have been succoured into believing they will get some recompense for the problems the drug has caused – but who --- if they haven't already been dropped by the lawyers because they are not well enough to state their own cases or find a worthy advocate ---- will probably be let down and sorely disappointed.

And those who have observed the whole fiasco since its conception - can see it for the debacle that it is and be concerned enough for the very real and innocent victims of the drugs, lawyers and disreputable supposed support board owners to stand their ground and raise awareness

You choose !!!

>5. Me insult? Oh deary me 'Tuesday' - where have you been all theae
>months?
Oh dear Bob! Your spellings slipped again!! Or is that being as puerile, insulting and defamatory as you are??

>Collection of Jeremy Bryce's vile posts can be seen here [pdf] -
>http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/5/6/1899375/Simpleton.pdf
Your flaunting your obsessive stalking, harassment and defamatory (Simpleton) insulting of J again!!


>6. I'm glad I was given the opportunity to change it. Were you?

Have you changed it?

The proof of this will be in the printing – and – the worth of what will / may be printed which is as yet an unknown entity!!

They're not consulting with those who have been through it and / or have worked to find remedial solutions for the problems encountered in withdrawal – as I say it's still an unknown entity.

I would think twice about crowing about your achievement - which is as yet only a proposed change / addition to information that Seroxat should not be abruptly stopped and therefore has withdrawal problems acknowledged by and listed in the BNF since at least 1993 –

and taking credit for something that might be useless as a working tool to get people off SSRIs – I feel is risky and could back fire on the person taking the credit!

As with the swap to Prozac Venn / Healy withdrawal protocol which saw many people in a much worse place than they were and on multiple medications including antipsychotics.

I wonder if any of them have thought of taking legal action against Venn who put her name to the document and Scott and Venn for encouraging them to take that route to get off Seroxat?

You will never know what I've managed to get changed – but there again - unlike you I'm not in this for me – to raise my profile – or to succour gratitude and adulation from others!

>Poor old Jezza, runs for help when he cannot answer simple questions.
Maybe he considers your questions not worth answering –

and how about you actually answering some questions Bob – you've ignored mine all together – or can't you answer?

Seems to me you don't have any answers and your only recourse in any discussion or debate is to get nasty, attack or run away.


>How are those Probation Officers panties simpleton?

Great counter point to concerns raised about those running / involved with and the obvious flaws in the Seroxat litigation – I do hope your lawyers can come up with something more worthy of saying if it ever gets to court or your case is sunk!

Wouldn't it make more sense and be more productive if instead of stalking and attacking who you think is writing the blog - to use your blog to counter or disprove what is said or to distance the dubious connections pointed out -

all you do is keep saying the person is out to sabotage the litigation – if there is no substance to what they are writing and a valid rock solid case - how can they?

And are you honestly naive and simple enough to believe that GSK's Lawyers will not already have accessed and catalogued the information that is being blogged –

along with all your and other's indiscreet posts -- especially on the Lawyer backed supposed Seroxat support boards -- to use in their defence and to minimize liability!

Your rational has slipped more than your spelling - get a grip Fid!

Tues

Ps - What happened to the numbers?

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