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uksurvivors : Message: 41424 " Turban Talibob "

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uksurvivors : Message: Is Bob English - A Towers Investigation

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Highcrofttower is a member of UK Survivors and has been since Jun 12, 2006



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Highcrofttower is a member of UK Survivors and has been since Jun 12, 2006



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Bob Fiddaman is a member of UK Survivors and has been since - Nov 22, 2008


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This man stopped Seroxat "cold turkey" and was over it in three months

I know - I was on it for 6 years - try to wean off it for 18 months until eventually going cold turkey - that was actually the worst three months of my life but I had made the decision that it was not going to run my life anymore.


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http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:X1mW_ai-MxMJ:acupuncture.vitalis.co.nz/2004/07/whats-better-than-aropax-or-prozac-who.html+fiddaman+aropax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

This the man who took Seroxat for 54 months without complaint !!

I know - I was on it for 6 years - try to wean off it for 18 months until eventually going cold turkey - that was actually the worst three months of my life but I had made the decision that it was not going to run my life anymore.


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NHS Blog Doctor - what professionals really think about single issue pressure groups

NHS Blog Doctor: "[The JABs site] claims to support the parents of 'vaccine damaged' children. I joined the forum, interested to see if there was any good evidence of harm caused by vaccines. (Short answer - no.) What I actually found was a single issue pressure group, dedicated to stamping out vaccination in all forms, and a forum populated by utter nutters. The worst kind of shit-for-brains internet mentalist. I mean, real 'heads down no-nonsense mindless WOOOOOO!!!!' idiots."

SSRI-Crusaders : Message Consultant clinical pharmacologist Dr Andrew Herxheimer ignored !!

SSRI-Crusaders : Message: Teenager bludgeoned his father to death after GP prescribed him Prozac


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRI-Crusaders/message/33621


Consultant clinical pharmacologist Dr Andrew Herxheimer(CORR), who examined Belben, said: 'The most striking thing he told me was... "a sudden thing came up in my head and I had to do it".'

Explaining Belben's emotions could have been 'blocked out by obsessive thoughts', he added: 'If he was in the grip of that thought that he had to kill Gary Belben, then having arranged to do it there was nothing else to be done.'

Dr Herxheimer said the adverse side-effects of SSRIs were vastly under-reported.

In one study, carried out on people without depression, up to one in 20 suffered adverse effects, including 'turbulence of emotions and compelling thoughts'.

In 2006, research revealed 40,000 children were still taking the drugs - with half having received no psychological support.

Wimpole Road Surgery refused to comment yesterday due to 'confidentiality issues'.

The local primary care trust, North East Essex NHS, also declined to discuss the case.

uksurvivors : Message: Prozac defence fails - 15 year old convicted of murder of his father

uksurvivors : Message: Prozac defence fails - 15 year old convicted of murder of his father



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uksurvivors/message/42484




Prozac teenager kills father with hammer
A 15-year-old boy bludgeoned his father to death and attempted to murder his mother with a crowbar and a pair of scissors after suffering rare side effects of Prozac, a court heard.

Last Updated: 8:53PM GMT 06 Feb 2009


Victim Gary Belben (left) and Ed Belben Photo: East News / Essex Police
Ed Belben lured his father Gary, 59, up to his bedroom before hitting him more than 30 times with a hammer and then plunging a knife into his head.

Chelmsford Crown Court heard the teenager then went downstairs and told his mother Tanya, 43, he had something to show her before trying to beat her to death with a crowbar and stabbing her with a pair of scissors.

Belben, now 17, had denied murder after arguing that his personality was changed when he began taking the antidepressant drug Prozac.

However, the jury did not accept his plea to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility and found him guilty of the murder of his father and attempted murder of his mother.

After the attacks on December 17 2007 Belben fled the family home in Colchester, Essex, covered in "blood, bone and brain", and was later arrested by police.

The prosecution claimed the Ed Belben had got into a bad crowd, was being led astray by his young girlfriend and had taken a cocktail of street drugs, including cannabis, cocaine, crack cocaine, ketamine and amphetamine in the years leading to the attack.

Edward Rees, defending, claimed the attack was sparked by a dangerous build-up of Prozac which Belben had been prescribed to treat depression just a month before the fatal attack.

The court heard that doctors had prescribed 10mg of the antidepressant Citalopram in October 2007, which had been against medical guidelines for treating depressed youngsters.

In November 2007 he was then prescribed 20mg of Prozac, double the recommended minimum starting dosage.

Dr Andrew Herxheimer, a consultant clinical pharmacologist, said medical evidence showed the drugs could cause side affects including suicidal thoughts, compulsion to self harm and aggression.

He told the jury Prozac can build up in the body in the first few weeks of taking it as the body cannot process it quickly enough which makes "adverse consequences more likely".

Belben sobbed in the dock as the jury delivered its verdicts and was led out by two security guards.

Judge Michael Justice Tugendhatt adjourned the case for sentencing.

Speaking outside court Mrs Belben, a nursery school worker, said: "There are not enough words to describe how this has affected my life and the lives of my family and friends. We are devastated. We have lost the most wonderful man."

"Fiddlin On Ya Roof",

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Musical interlude - "Fiddler on the roof"

GSK Paxil/Seroxat sales fall 21% - must be all those people getting off it !!!

PharmaTimes | Industry News | World News | …although generics batter GSK fourth-quarter pharma sales: "Amid all the talk of job losses, GlaxoSmithKline’s fourth-quarter financials revealed a 4% decline in pharmaceutical sales to £5.80 billion, hit again by generic competition and lower revenues of the diabetes drug Avandia.

Sales of Avandia (rosiglitazone) were down 24% to £147 million, while generic competition in the USA hit its central nervous system drugs hard. Revenues from Paxil/Seroxat (paroxetine) fell 21% to $154 million, while another antidepressant, Wellbutrin (bupropion), slumped 63% to £66 million."



http://www.pharmatimes.com/WorldNews/article.aspx?id=15263

Fiddaman's comments considered libellous - resulting in a ban from blacktriangle

Black Triangle » Blog Archive » Trial drug ate my hamster: "Anthony
April 5th, 2006 09:36
4Dear Mr Robert Fiddaman,
While this site does not seek to censor the views of others, I do take exception to you posting letters and comments which are completely off-topic to the post they appear under.
I also consider your post libellous in nature and for that reason I have removed the bulk of its content. You have also been banned from further contributions in order to prevent similar occurances in future.
Presumably, as the Group moderator of the Online Seroxat Support Group you have the ability to post your views elsewhere.
Please do so."


http://www.blacktriangle.org/blog/?p=1338

Pulse - Seroxat firm to drop dependence claim ??? - look more closely !!

Pulse - Seroxat firm to drop dependence claim



http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=23&storycode=4001122

Seroxat firm to drop dependence claim
18 May 03

GlaxoSmithKline will change the wording on the patient information leaflet for Seroxat (paroxetine) to remove the claim that the drug is 'not addictive'.

GSK made its decision after considering 1,400 e-mails from patients about their experiences of taking Seroxat, which were featured on BBC TV's Panorama earlier this month.

The company will not change the wording provided to GPs in the summary of product characteristics. A statement said: 'We acknowledge that patients may get symptoms on stopping Seroxat. Although we maintain Seroxat is not addictive, we have proposed to take out that specific wording as we realised on talking to patients it did not add to their understanding of what to expect when they stop taking the product.

'We are not proposing to change the wording to doctors on the SPC. The statement that Seroxat does not cause dependence will remain because this terminology is clearly understood by health care professionals.'

uksurvivors : Message - despite legal aid Efexor addiction case failed

uksurvivors : Message: Re: legal aid obtained for UK Efexor addiction case sept 2001: "from -
http://stevewhiting.co.uk/effexorfx.aspx
Regrets & Lessons.

My main regret concerning all of the above is that the drug's manufacturer has never been forced to compensate the patients who suffered as a result of it's failure to provide full and frank disclosure at the outset of all of the problems which, it is certain, it knew to exist. I suppose that this injustice is why I have chosen to create this page on my new site at this time - at the very least the injustice itself should be recorded as a testament to all those who suffered as a result of the lies and half-truths which they were told by the manufacturer of this drug.

Also, I would like to think that the medical profession and the various drug regulators may have learned a lesson from the manufacturer's dishonesty about Venlafaxine, but, even today, many doctors prescribe the drug without any apparent awareness of the true nature of the drug's side effects and withdrawal symptoms and (in the UK) the regulators still do not insist that all of the clinical trials data is disclosed, allowing pharmaceutical companies to continue to withhold crucial information from doctors and patients alike"

uksurvivors : Message: legal aid obtained for UK Efexor addiction case sept 2001

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Drug giant faces huge lawsuit | Society | guardian.co.uk: 'A British man, Steve Whiting, secured legal aid to bring a case over addiction to Effexor in this country against its manufacturer, Wyeth-Ayerst.'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2001/sep/06/mentalhealth"

Patients used as drug 'guinea pigs'Firms pay out millions to doctors to test medicines

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/feb/09/health.nhs




Patients used as drug 'guinea pigs'Firms pay out millions to doctors to test medicinesAntony Barnett, public affairs editor guardian.co.uk, Sunday 9 February 2003 01.24 GMT Article historyWhen Italia Sudano went for a check-up with her GP, Dr Robert Adams, she was in good health. Her husband had died a few months earlier and her blood pressure was a little high.
Yet nothing could have prepared Sudano, 72, for the nightmare that was to follow and the discovery of a trail of greed and fraud that went right to the heart of the medical profession.

She was astonished to discover that her trusted GP had been using her as a guinea pig by giving her tablets which had not been medically approved. Worse still, he was being paid to do so by a pharmaceutical company.

An investigation by The Observer has revealed that many doctors are risking their patients' health by subjecting them to medical trials without their knowledge.

Sudano's ordeal began when Adams took a blood test and asked her to return the next week. She had been living at Letchworth in Hertfordshire since arriving from Italy 50 years earlier and she trusted British doctors.

Over the next few weeks Adams asked Sudano to return for more blood tests. By the end of the second month her arms were black and blue. Her son, Joe, said they looked as though they had been slammed in a door. She said: 'At one point I asked if he was selling my blood.'

Little did Sudano know how close to the truth her comment was. On her last visit, Adams took a bottle of pills from the top drawer of his desk and suggested Sudano take one a day. While she thought it strange she wasn't being given a prescription, she trusted her doctor.

But within hours of swallowing the pill, she could hardly walk because she was so dazed. Her face had swollen up badly and she was in considerable pain.

She stopped taking the tablets and complained to Hertfordshire Health Authority. This sparked an investigation that led to one of the largest cases of medical research fraud ever uncovered in Britain. It emerged that over the previous five years Adams had earned more than £100,000 from drug companies, including the European giants AstraZeneca, GlaxoSmithKline and Bayer. They were all paying him to test their new drugs on his patients. Like Sudano, many of his patients had never given their consent and had no knowledge they were being used as human guinea pigs in a medical trial. Patients with no symptoms were given drugs and others who needed proper medication were given placebos. Adams was receiving almost £1,000 for each patient.

Last month Adams was found guilty by the General Medical Council (GMC) of serious professional misconduct and suspended for 12 months. The GMC's lawyer described it as 'assault' and Sudano is now looking to sue Adams.

GlaxoSmithKline was using Adams to study its anti-depressant Paroxetine, but had to cancel the trial at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The drugs industry talks of bad apples and the odd errant doctor milking the system but insists that trials using GPs are essential for medical advances and that payment to doctors for the extra work involved is ethically correct.

But an investigation by The Observer suggests the problem of GPs using patients as guinea pigs without their consent is more widespread. Some 3,000 doctors each year are paid by drug firms to sign up their patients to tests and on average 15 patients are needed for each trial. With doctors picking up £1,000 per patient, drug companies are spending £45m on getting doctors onside. There is no suggestion the companies are implicated in moves to carry out the tests by doctors on patients secretly.

Medical fraud experts estimate that one per cent of all drug trials involve fraud, including failure to get proper consent from patients. This means hundreds of patients a year are being given unapproved and potentially dangerous drugs without their knowledge.

The Observer has discovered that in the last five years the GMC has taken action in a dozen cases involving GPs undertaking fraudulent research. Examples include:

· Dr Vasu Agrawal from Chigwell, Essex, removed samples of womb from menopausal women as part of a trial into a new hormone replacement drug called Divina Nova. Agrawal failed to tell the women they were testing a drug that could have serious side-effects. Agrawal, who forged signatures on consent forms, received almost £6,000 from Orion Pharma International.

· Dr Paul Chima from Edinburgh is estimated to have received more than £200,000 from a range of pharmaceutical companies for testing their new drugs for angina, asthma, high blood pressure and depression. He failed to warn patients of possible side-effects and offered one a £2,000 bribe not to give evidence against him.

· Dr James Boschler from south London was given £22,500 from Bayer and Solvay Healthcare. He claimed to have signed up 36 patients, but 25 of the consent forms were discovered to be forgeries.

The country's foremost investigator of medical research fraud is Peter Jay, the former Metropolitan Police detective chief inspector who arrested serial killer Dennis Nilsen. Since 1996 Jay has run MedicoLegal Investigations, an independent body, and has taken 12 doctors to the GMC.

Jay is investigating six further cases, including one involving a GP in Manchester. Dr Mark Northfield is alleged not to have obtained consent from patients for entering them into trials to test drugs manufactured by Bayer and Roche to treat high blood pressure and heart problems. Northfield is contesting the allegations before the GMC professional conduct committee.

Jay said: 'While the industry has become more alert to the problems over the last decade there is still clearly a worrying and persistent problem in research fraud involving doctors. This is not just an issue of patient safety, but a problem that might lead to bad drugs being approved or good drugs failing to be approved.'

The Observer's revelations of the continuing problem of research fraud have sparked calls for industry guidelines to be toughened up. David Hinchcliffe, the Labour chair of the House of Commons Health Select Committee, described the situation as bordering on 'scandalous' and said his committee would look into the issue.

He said: 'The relationship between the drug firms and the medical profession is one that needs to be thoroughly investigated. It is extremely worrying that patients' trust is being abused by doctors who are more interested in making money from the pharmaceutical industry.'

Dr Evan Harris, health spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, suggested that doctors involved in trials should be subject to on-the-spot inspections and that a patient's consent to take part in a drug trial should be given outside the GP's surgery, for example to a research officer acting for the firm.

Additional research by Charlotte Coulon

Drug giant faces huge lawsuit | Society | guardian.co.uk

Drug giant faces huge lawsuit | Society | guardian.co.uk: "A British man, Steve Whiting, secured legal aid to bring a case over addiction to Effexor in this country against its manufacturer, Wyeth-Ayerst."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2001/sep/06/mentalhealth