The Evidence However, Is Clear... Seroxat User Group Scandal

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Matthew Schultz - murdered by Wyeth, the Mark Harvey's & the greedy Seroxat bloggers who would have you believe Seroxat is the worst SSRI

Matthew Schultz - murdered by Wyeth, the Mark Harvey's & the greedy Seroxat bloggers who would have you believe Seroxat is the worst SSRI

Shelley Jofre who failed expectant mothers everywhere, she knew there was a problem with all SSRI, but only researched Seroxat to meet the requirements Seroxat lawyer Mark Harvey

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Jofre says although problems with whole class of antidepressants we (bbc) decided to concentrate on Seroxat Why we narrowed down on Seroxat 1 because it was made by GSK 2 all the drugs in class cause suicidal thinking on dose change 3 Seroxat had a unique problem of withdrawal BECAUSE IT WAS LONGER ACTING … we decided to focus research into this drug

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SSRI media interest stimulates the reporting of adverse suicidal reactions

7.4.2 Suicidal thoughts and self-harm




These analyses included the following terms which have been grouped under the overall term ‘suicidal thoughts and self-harm’: suicide accomplished, suicide attempt, suicidal ideation, aggravated suicidal ideation, parasuicide, non-accidental overdose and thoughts of self-harm. Data were analysed since marketing up to September 2003.



It is recognised that media interest can stimulate reporting through the Yellow Card Scheme, and the publicity surrounding the safety of fluoxetine in 1990 caused an increase in reporting of suicidal thoughts and self-harm associated with fluoxetine. There was also some effect on reporting rates for other SSRIs. The reporting rate of suicidal behaviour with fluoxetine then dropped between 1991 and 1993, and continued to fall gradually until 1998. In the years 1995 to 1998, the reporting rates for fluoxetine, paroxetine and sertraline were very similar, figure 7.2. This argues against this phenomenon being a particular adverse reaction to fluoxetine. Reporting rates for venlafaxine were comparatively higher between 1995 and 1998 (figure 7.3), although this coincides with the first few years of marketing of this drug. After 1998, reporting rates for venlafaxine fell to similar level as the other SSRIs.


source - CSM Expert Working Group on the Safety of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor Antidepressants report

http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/pl-p/documents/drugsafetymessage/con019472.pdf 


http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/pl-p/documents/drugsafetymessage/con019472.pdf

Shelley Jofre who failed expectant mothers everywhere, she knew there was a problem with all SSRI, but only researched Seroxat to meet the requirements Seroxat lawyer Mark Harvey

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Jofre says although problems with whole class of antidepressants we (bbc) decided to concentrate on Seroxat Why we narrowed down on Seroxat 1 because it was made by GSK 2 all the drugs in class cause suicidal thinking on dose change 3 Seroxat had a unique problem of withdrawal BECAUSE IT WAS LONGER ACTING … we decided to focus research into this drug

Shelly Jofre was "given the space and resources to unravel an international drug company scandal" - anyone who claims she investigated all SSRI's is a LIAR !!

Shelley Jofre

Life as a Panorama reporter since 2000 has given me a unique opportunity to pursue investigations that really matter.
I have been given the space and resources to unravel an international drug company scandal that fundamentally questions how much faith we should put in the medicines we take.

The first film I made about GlaxoSmithKline's best-selling antidepressant, Seroxat, generated an unprecedented viewer response; a staggering 65,000 people rang the BBC helpline after the programme.

I was able to continue digging away at the story in three further films. These have resulted in a complete rethink of the drug's safety and effectiveness as well as an overhaul of the way patients report side effects from any prescription medicine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6229043.stm

The films won a Mental Health Media Award for Public Impact and were shortlisted for the Royal Television Society Awards in 2003.

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GSK's liability might be $1billon but Pfizer's was $21 billion

clearly Pfizer is many times many many more times more culpable than GSK !! .........some people who are fixated on GSK need to get a grip on reality



"A liability totaling $1.5 billion is possible," Savvas Neophytou, a Panmure

Gordon analyst in London, wrote in a note to investors the day after the Kilker

verdict. He still recommended buying Glaxo shares because a likely appeal may

reduce the amount paid by the company.



In comparison, Pfizer Inc., parent of Wyeth, the maker of diet-drug combination

fen-phen, has had to set aside about $21 billion to resolve about 200,000

personal-injury claims over that medicine. Merck & Co. agreed to pay $4.85

billion to resolve more than 48,000 claims over the withdrawn painkiller.

uksurvivors : Message: Glaxo Said to Have Paid $1 Billion in Paxil Suits (Update2)

uksurvivors : Message: Glaxo Said to Have Paid $1 Billion in Paxil Suits (Update2)


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uksurvivors/message/52815

Seroxat payouts to the UK 600 - expect a pittance !!

Seroxat payouts to the UK 600 - expect a pittance !!
3200 Seroxat claims settled out of court .....then case closed


Glaxo paid an average of about $50,000 per case to resolve about 3,200 claims linking Paxil to addiction problems, the people familiar with the cases said.

In its 2008 annual report, company officials noted they had reached a âconditional settlement agreementâ in January 2006 with Paxil users who alleged they suffered withdrawal symptoms after taking the drug. The case, filed in Los Angeles federal court, was marked closed in court records in February.

âGlaxo did not admit liabilityâ in the addiction settlements, the companyâs officials said in a March 2009 filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEr_s70bGdYo

Seroxat UK campaign lies revealed - they claimed to have 10,000 members yet GSK paid out to only 3200 people in the entire USA

3200 Seroxat claims settled out of court .....then case closed

Glaxo paid an average of about $50,000 per case to resolve about 3,200 claims linking Paxil to addiction problems, the people familiar with the cases said.

In its 2008 annual report, company officials noted they had reached a “conditional settlement agreement” in January 2006 with Paxil users who alleged they suffered withdrawal symptoms after taking the drug. The case, filed in Los Angeles federal court, was marked closed in court records in February.

€œGlaxo did not admit liability” in the addiction settlements, the company’s officials said in a March 2009 filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEr_s70bGdYo

Seroxat user Group screw over revealed - average USA payout = £25,000

average payout for Seroxat withdrawal = £25,000 !!

Glaxo paid an average of about $50,000 per case to resolve about 3,200 claims linking Paxil to addiction problems, the people familiar with the cases said

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEr_s70bGdYo

Glaxo Said to Have Paid $1 Billion to Settle Paxil/Seroxat Lawsuits

http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/2009/12/glaxo-said-to-have-paid-1-billion-to.html

Bob said -

Bloomberg is reporting that GlaxoSmithKline has shelled out almost $1 billion to settle lawsuits over Paxil [Seroxat] since its introduction to the population in 1993. $390 million is reported to have been paid out to settle lawsuits regarding suicides or attempted suicides said to be linked to Glaxo's Paxil [Seroxat]

Seroxat side effects are the same as Zoton, Tramadol or even Dothiepin - no wonder then that Seroxat lawyers drop so many not so Atypical cases

http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2009/12/side-effects-zoton-include-taste.html

Side effects - Zoton - include taste disturbances, dizziness, vertigo, confusion, blurred vision, hallucinations

Adverse Psychiatric Reactions Information Link
is a Registered UK Charity No 1072305

Information
ANTACID MEDICATION
ZOTON also known as LANSOPRAZOLE

Prevacid in USA and Canada is one of a group of drugs called

PROTON - PUMP INHIBITORS

If you have suffered a psychiatric adverse reaction to this drug please email us at reactions@april.org.uk
The UK Patient Information Leaflet which is found neatly tucked inside the box of tablets states under the heading 'After Taking your medicine’ Written in very small grey type, on pale yellow paper, it states:

"Occasionally ZOTON may cause side effects. Such side-effects do not usually last for long, However, please see your doctor if any of the following become severe to troublesome.

Headache, diarrhoea, stomach pain, feeling of sickness, vomiting, taste disturbances, dizziness, vertigo, confusion, blurred vision, hallucinations, feeling unwell, constipation, wind, dry or sore mouth or throat, tiredness, burning or prickling feeling, itching, hair thinning, muscle or joint pains, fluid retention, swelling, depression.

As with other acid reducing drugs, men taking lansoprazole may occasionally experience temporary breast swelling or impotence.

You should contact your doctor if you develop a rash. The majority of rashes are mild and self-limiting but sensitivity to sunlight and more severe blistering rashes have occurred rarely, which may require medical treatment.

You should see your doctor at once if you get a fever, any unexplained bruising or bleeding, extreme fatigue, difficulty in urinating, if your skin or whites of your eyes become more yellow than usual or if you experience symptoms of an allergic reaction such as shortness of breath or face swelling.

As natural acid in the stomach helps to kill bacteria, the lowering of acid by acid-reducing drugs such as ZOTON may make some people more liable to suffer from certain stomach infections. If you suffer from severe persistent diarrhoea and/ or vomiting whilst taking ZOTON you should consult your doctor.

Other side effects include kidney problems, inflammation of the liver or changes in kidney or liver function.

Please tell your doctor if you have any unwanted event not listed above."

Atypical client of the type dropped by UK Seroxat lawyers because they were taking a cocktail of psychoactive drugs!

Fiddaman said -

"I take 40mg of Paroxetine (Seroxat) per day for depression.50mg Tramadol per day for my arthritis.75mg Dothiepan just before bedtime (another anti depressant though my GPsays it should help me get a better sleep)15mg Zoton (Reflux Osophugus)"
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.people.disability/browse_thread/thread/b0ba9fc3e9295d81?hl=en-GB&q=fiddaman+benefit

Most Seroxat clients dropped because they were taking other drugs in conjunction with their paroxetine

The reason why there are only 600 or so claimaints left in the UK Seroxat class action against GSK is because many cases were dropped because of doctors prescribing other drugs in conjunction with Seroxat. I know personally of many people who have been dropped from the class action because of this and other factors...

Oh and by the way, Janice Simmons of the seroxatusersgroup met with UK prime minister Gordon Brown at downing street a few days ago. Bear in mind that there is currently a 4 year long investigation into the conduct of GSK regarding Seroxat prescribing to children/suppression of negative clinical data etc..

http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/2007/11/honourable-members.html

But bear in mind also that JP Garnier( GSK CEO) is also on "Gordon Browns Business Council"...
Also worthy of thought is what GSK means to the UK economy..
It is virtually an English institution with its roots firmly cemented in UK research/developement/sponsorship/employment etc..
It is the UK's Major Pharma Cash Cow..
And it is prized very much as being such...

Will be interesting when more info on this meeting begins to bear fruit...
But i have a feeling that the UK seroxat scandal is a can of worms which has been eating its way right through the core of UK politics for quite some time now...
And when something has become that rotten..
Most people won't touch it...

Posted by truthman30 at December 2, 2007 04:24 PM

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Why is there only 600 litigants when the Seroxat User Group claimed it had 10,000 members - asks Will @ Furious Seasons

I wonder why there were only 600 clients when it was very much the case that the "Online Seroxat Support Group" & "seroxatUSERSgroup" claimed they represented 10.000 + members.

see- http://www.seroxatusergroup.org.uk/EMEA%20minutes%20April%202004.pdf

I note that both Derek Scott of OSSG & Janice Simmons of sUg both attended the EMEA meeting of April 2004

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Result of Seroxat placebo control trial on personality - note this trial was not funded by GSK

Results Patients who took paroxetine reported greater personality change than placebo patients, even after controlling for depression improvement (neuroticism, P < .001; extraversion, P = .002). The advantage of paroxetine over placebo in antidepressant efficacy was no longer significant after controlling for change in neuroticism (P = .46) or extraversion (P = .14). Patients taking paroxetine reported 6.8 times as much change on neuroticism and 3.5 times as much change on extraversion as placebo patients matched for depression improvement. Although placebo patients exhibited substantial depression improvement (Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression score, ¨C1.2 SD, P < .001), they reported little change on neuroticism (¨C0.18 SD, P = .08) or extraversion (0.08 SD, P = .50). Cognitive therapy produced greater personality change than placebo (P .01); but its advantage on neuroticism was no longer significant after controlling for depression (P = .14). Neuroticism reduction during treatment predicted lower relapse rates among paroxetine responders (P = .003) but not among cognitive therapy responders (P = .86).


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uksurvivors/message/52420




http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/66/12/1322

uksurvivors : Message: Personality Change During Depression Treatment - placebo cont trial

uksurvivors : Message: Personality Change During Depression Treatment - placebo cont trial: "Personality Change During Depression Treatment
A Placebo-Controlled Trial"


http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/66/12/1322

uksurvivors : Message: Seroxat personality study NOT funded by GSK .....how interesting

uksurvivors : Message: Seroxat personality study NOT funded by GSK .....how interesting

Seroxat lawyers media machine makes matters worse for consumers of all other brands of SSRI

Steph & others reading your attention is drawn to


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRI-Crusaders/message/34746

http://coventryuniversity.podbean.com/2007/11/01/one-woman-a-multinational-and-a-victory-shelley-jofre-panorama/



which is a podcast of Shelley Jofre speaking at Sheffield University date Nov 2007



from the transcript please note -



4 .30 in Ed says - lets look at antidepressant story



4 45 Jofre says although problems with whole class of antidepressants we (bbc) decided to concentrate on Seroxat Why we narrowed down on Seroxat 1 because it was made by GSK 2 all the drugs in class cause suicidal thinking on dose change 3 Seroxat had a unique problem of withdrawal BECAUSE IT WAS LONGER ACTING … we decided to focus research into this drug



So here we have it straight from the horses mouth that not only did the BBC know that there was a class wide problem with SSRI, they chose despite this knowledge, to focus research on seroxat !



Quite how the UK lawyers media machine can be seen as a help, to those seeking to bring awareness about all psychiatric drugs, when they, in the face of there own knowledge, decided to ignore the bulk of the problem (all drugs in class), is beyond comprehension.



The BBC is a public sector broadcaster responsible to all like me, who have no choice but to pay a tax (broadcasting licence) to them. So it comes with a sense of total bewilderment to learn from Jofre, that not only did Panorama take 8 months to make, but that the UK litigation lawyer was involved throughout the process!!



read transcript



6.00 in - 40 min Panorama film took Shelley Jofre 8 months to make



&



7.30 We were talking to the lawyer the whole way through production



So Steph here was prime opportunity to bring awareness about all SSRI's & the whole thing was ceeded to the only persons who will benefit ....the UK lawyers



So lets look again at what Jofre said @ 6:10



6.10 in - It's not something you do lightly WE WERE TAKING ON the worlds second largest drug company



Quite frankly Steph that is not something the BBC has a remit to do.



It has become partisan.



Remember whilst the BBC is fighting Hugh James' wars for them they (BBC) are by their own admission failing to help people who take brands other than Paxil/Seroxat .............i.e. the majority of the consumers.



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The net result which is easy to show (from national statistics) is a dissaster.



BBC & Jofre should hang their head in shame.



Now I realise this won't lie easy with those of you who have met Jofre in person, so for those that know her, I suggest you invite her & her producer at Panorama to join the debate here at SSRIcrusaders.



I'll not hold my breath, as with the UK seroaxt caucus I don't expect that they are capable of self reflection.



The UK now has a runaway problem with several brands of antidepressants a regulator that is bogged down by seroxat "created issues", one that has failed to do its job to the detriment of anyone who takes an antidepressant NOT made by GSK



And you think this helps Steph?



Jeremy



(( note in writing this post I am not in anyway attempting to defend GSK ))

BBC admits it knew there was a problem with the entire class of SSRI's, yet THEY targeted GSK product Seroxat !

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2.30 in Jofre says - ” read a little bit in news paper about patients complaints” year 2000 about ” Seroxat difficult to withdraw from” .. Jofre found it intriguing Jofre had only just started working on Panorama at that stage
3.30 in ” Jofre calls SSRI’s “SELECTIVE Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors”
4.14 Jofre knew little of how the pharmcutical industry worked
4 .30 in Ed says - lets look at antidepressant story
4 45 Jofre says although problems with whole class of antidepressants we (bbc) decided to concentrate on Seroxat Why we narrowed down on Seroxat 1 because it was made by GSK 2 all the drugs in class cause suicidal thinking on dose change 3 Seroxat had a unique problem of withdrawal BECAUSE IT WAS LONGER ACTING … we decided to focus research into this drug
6.00 in - 40 min Panorama film took Shelley Jofre 8 months to make
6.10 in - It’s not something you do lightly WE WERE TAKING ON the worlds second largest drug company
7.30 We were talking to the lawyer the whole way through production
9.30 in - Jofre says “we took a punt” on Dr David Healy

Anon Commenter is missing the point - MOST people, just weeks after cold turkey withdrawal COULDN'T go to a concert, many struggle for months, some for years and some are permanently disabled! Others have killed themselves!

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4+ weeks after starting cold turkey Bob Fiddaman promotes Casbah Club Gig @ Wrexham

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.north-wales/browse_thread/thread/91af9370b3ef311/d1ae974b140b0c65?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=fiddy+casbah+club&pli=1

4+ weeks after starting cold turkey Bob Fiddaman promotes upcoming Casbah Club Gig @ Wolverhampton

http://groups.google.com/group/free.uk.talk.wolverhampton/browse_thread/thread/9753b32ec0b49cd7/eb8ee36b941ae2a9?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=fiddy+casbah+club

So seven weeks after starting cold turkey Bob Fiddaman goes to The Robin 2 - The Midlands Premier 700 capacity live concert venue !!

The Robin 2 - The Midlands Premier 700 capacity live concert venue


The Robin 2 is the Midlands premiere 700 capacity live concert venue. Situated in Bilston in the heart of the Black Country.

http://www.therobin.co.uk//

Bob Fiddaman's 22 Apr 2004 review of Casbah Club gig, which took place 21 Apr 2004 at the The Robin 2

From: Robert Mann Date: Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 5:38 pm

There isn't many concerts that can leave one feeling completely satisfied - well not since the days of Acca Dacca and Big Country. But wait......... we have the Casbah Club, a five peice set of muso's who probably have a combined age nearing the 300 mark.

With a sense of great anticipation, after reviews on this board, I got into the spirit of things with my buddy Arun and met a few familiar faces. Was surprised to see so much merchandise on sale and even more suprised to see the Big Country wooly hats - only wish I would have bought more funds so I could have purchased one.

read on - http://www.bigcountry.co.uk/news/articleRead.php?id=18


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*** Exclusive - what it was really like for Fiddaman a few weeks after withdrawing cold turkey

http://www.bigcountry.co.uk/news/articleRead.php?id=18

So how was withdrawal for you Bob? - did you really suffer? - did you have real problems?

Come back later & we will show you how Bob Fiddaman got on.

PANES case 4 & 5 - persistent pains in the legs 3 months after withdrawal,

Mrs D., a 49 year old health professional was prescribed 20 mg paroxetine daily in April 2000 for a depressive disorder. This relieved the depression, but aftr three months the patient started to develop paresthesiae in the right hand, and some weeks later experienced her fingers being 'fumbly'. She visited her GP and complained that although her mood was satisfactory there were unpleasant side effects. He asked her to reduce the dose to 10 mg daily. Mrs D began to experience painful, restless legs at night and vivid dreams. The tingling in her hand spread into her body and head. After a week of the 10 mg dose the patient discontinued the paroxetine altogether in the belief that the paroxetine would be out of her system in a few days and her symptoms would subside. The symptoms however persisted. She took a week off work, but the following symptoms persisted for the next three months:




paraesthesiae in hands and feet spreading up arms and legs intermittently

stiffness in calf muscles

unsteadiness on her feet with wide gait

clumsy fingers

loose bowels

disinhibited mood

These symptoms appeared worst at the end of the day, following heavy physical work,and with even small amounts of alcohol. By December, four months after discontinuing the paroxetine most of the symptoms had reduced in severity to near normal.







Mrs E., a 48 year old woman was prescribed citalopram by her GP for eleven months. The indication for the prescription was chronic anxiety. For fifteen months folowing the discontinuation of this therapy she suffered headaches and dizziness. She also complained of a fluttering sensation across her scalp. To date there has been little improvement.

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

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PANES case 3 - 8 months after withdrawal she still had myoclonic jerks

Mrs C., a 29-year-old mother of one, became ill with depression when her son was aged eight months. She was suicidal and required hospital admission where she was started on fluoxetine 20 mg daily. The antidepressant worked well and her mood was restored within four weeks of admission. She was discharged home, but commented that her sleep was occasionally disturbed by bad dreams and she was aware of twitching in the bed. She was kept on the fluoxetine for a further twelve months and at outpatient reviews mentioned that her sleep was still occasionally disturbed by nocturnal twitching. She said that her husband had started to sleep separately, because he was 'tired of being kicked' in the middle of the night. The fluoxetine was discontinued eighteen months after the admission. Mrs C described no worsening of her mood and was euthymic and outpatient review. However, she was distressed to report that her nocturnal twitching, which took the form of sudden myoclonic jerks of her limbs, had actually worsened off fluoxetine. During the day these abnormal involuntary movements were less marked and more easily disguised, but nonetheless problematic for the patient. At follow-up eight months after discontinuation the untoward myoclonic jerks were continuing. There are no focal neurological signs or any features suggestive of progressive neurological disease, nor was there a family history of neurological disease.

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

PANES case 2 - withdrawal over 6 weeks - paraesthesiae, dizziness, mild ataxia, and slurred speech continue for 12 months

A 35-year-old man (Mr B) was prescribed paroxetine 30 mg daily for depression. The depression resolved and the paroxetine was continued at the same dose for two years. The medication was discontinued in a staged way, with reductions to 20, then 10 mg, managed over six weeks or so. Symptoms of withdrawal occurred throughout this period and comprised vivid nightmares, lability of mood, irritability, hypersexuality, episodic lightheadedness, episodic electric-shock like sensations, glove paraesthesiae, and ataxia. These symptoms ended two weeks after the withdrawal regime was finished. Nevertheless the patient continued to describe problems of an episodic nature well after the paroxetine had been discontinued. These episodes lasting hours to days at a time and comprised paraesthesiae, dizziness, mild ataxia, and slurred speech. These episodes have occurred intermittently throughout twelve months of follow-up during which time the patient has been drug-free. There are no focal neurological signs or any features suggestive of progressive neurological disease, nor was there a family history of neurological disease

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

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PANES case 1 - just like Bob she was on dothiepin, then on to Seroxat - withdrawal due to dystonic reaction - 7 months later she still had dystonia

Mrs A. a 29 year old married lady with a moderate depressive disorder was switched to paroxetine by her general practitioner after an initial prescription of dothiepin. She had found the tricyclic dothiepin too sedating and after a week or so of this medication requested a change. After two weeks on paroxetine 20 mg daily she was reviewed by a consultant psychiatrist who increased the dose to 40 mg daily. The patient suffered a dystonic reaction to the paroxetine that required physician review and admission, but apparently responded well to procyclidine. The paroxetine was discontinued. Unfortunately the dystonic reaction persisted off all medication and required further medical admission and the re-prescription of procyclidine. The depression continued unabated and a tricyclic was started with some improvement in mood. Seven months after the paroxetine had been stopped the tardive dystonia was noted to be present and to vary with anxiety levels, body posture, alertness, and emotional state.

http://priory.com/psych/panes.htm#Case1

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

PANES Persistent adverse neurological effects following SSRI discontinuation - Dr Ben Green, MRCPsych, ILTM available expert witness Seroxat litigation

PANES Persistent adverse neurological effects following SSRI discontinuation - case report: "Persistent adverse neurological effects following SSRI discontinuation (PANES)."


Dr Ben Green, MRCPsych, ILTM


Consultant Psychiatrist, Halton Hospital, UK and Hon. Senior Lecturer, University of Liverpool, UK These prolonged reactions were first described here in Spring 2000. No other reports are known of, although this condition may well be more widespread than is presently recognised. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) discontinuation syndrome has been described in the literature as a cluster of symptoms and signs that occur after SSRIs such as paroxetine, sertraline and fluoxetine have been discontinued Abrupt withdrawal of antidepressant therapy for 5-8 days is associated with symptoms such as dizziness, ataxia, paraesthesiae, gastrointestinal and flu-like symptoms, and other sensory and sleep disturbances. Psychiatric symptoms include anxiety, agitation, lability of mood, hypersexuality, crying spells, behaviour change and irritability. The SSRI discontinuation syndrome appears to be most marked with paroxetine and to a lesser degree sertraline, with few symptoms seen with fluoxetine (Rosenbaum et al, 1998). The frequency and severity of these symptoms appear to vary according to the half-life of the SSRI (Schatzberg et al, 1997). Schatzberg et al comment that most discontinuation symptoms rare 'short-lived', but that some effects may be longer lasting. Traditional explanations the pharmacology of SSRIs discuss the effects on the postsynaptic serotonin receptor, but the SSRIs work at a variety of locations and their effects reverberate through the nervous and endocrine systems, so that in animal models there may be altered neuroendocrine function for weeks after ceasing fluoxetine. Even 60 days after discontinuation of fluoxetine, the oxytocin response in animals was still significantly reduced by 26% compared with controls.


Transient dystonias and dyskinesias of the jaw have presviously been described with SSRIs (Fitzgerald & Healy, 1995). This report considers four patients on SSRIs who all suffered prolonged neurological symptoms for months after discontinuing their medication.

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

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Yates family paid the ultimate price - withdrawal from high dose Effexor leads to Andrea drowning her 5 children in the bath.

Yates' husband has said that his wife was given Effexor at a dosage nearly twice the recommended maximum limit. Just days before the murders, the Effexor was for some reason reduced to just slightly more than the recommended maximum dosage of 225 mg per day and the Remeron was added

From the May 2002 Chronicles Magazine

Time-Out For Antidepressant Drugs - Andrea Yates

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

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Kara & her family paid the ultimate withdrawal price.

http://www.ssri-uksupport.com/kara.html

So how was withdrawal for you Bob ?

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Irish Psychiatrist had withdrawal problems with Paxil Seroxat !!

Garrett R FitzGerald,


Consultant Physician
Waterford Regional Hospital,Waterford,IRELAND
Send response to journal:
Re: Paroxetine

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/324/7332/260#19203

The "dizziness" associated with paroxetine withdrawal has happened to me on two seperate occasions of dose-reduction, and within two days on each occasion. The nearest description I can apply to the sensation is the feeling of having one's head inflated by an air pump,without evidence of any such appliance in the immediate vicinity. Cipramil, an alternative SSRI, does not produce this spaceman sensation, when my dosage is reduced.

Rapid Responses published to Withdrawal from paroxetine can be severe

Rapid Responses published

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/324/7332/260#19203

Withdrawal from paroxetine can be severe, warns FDA -- Tonks 324 (7332): 260 -- BMJ 2 Feb. 2002

Withdrawal from paroxetine can be severe, warns FDA -- Tonks 324 (7332): 260 -- BMJ

Alison Tonks, Bristol The first 150 words of the full text of this article appear below.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/324/7332/260

GlaxoSmithKline, a leading drugs manufacturer, was last week forced to admit that paroxetine, a widely prescribed antidepressant and the company's best selling drug, can cause severe withdrawal symptoms when stopped.

The Food and Drug Administration in the United States published a new product warning about the drug, and in the same week the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Associations declared the company guilty of misleading the public about paroxetine on US television a year ago.

"This drug has been promoted for years as safe and easy to discontinue," said Charles Medawar, head of Social Audit, a consumer research group specialising in medicines policy. "The fact that it can cause intolerable withdrawal symptoms of the kind that could lead to dependence is enormously important to patients, doctors, investors, and the company.

"GlaxoSmithKline has evaded the issue since

Earlier on Day 8, clearly Bob is having NO problems during his so-called cold turkey. - date = Mar 2 2004

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Fuckin Hell Dave!!! From a DIPH to a computer nerd. Words like 'Format',
'DLR', 'Burning on the fly', Source DVD' and 'Data Disc'? My, you have come
a long way. Spose props should go out to Cam for his patience eh?

KEEP IT STIFF BRO and don't get too technical, some of us are still trying
to get to terms with identifying a DVD/R to a CDR.

Fiddy

Day 8 and Fiddaman is clearly finding cold turkey withdrawal a laugh !!

click on link below to personally verify this Bob Fiddaman Blogspot Exclusive ***


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Mar 2 2004



LOL - I have been 8 days cold turkey on Seroxat and the other night I could
have sworn some presence was inside my body touching my bodily organs, it
made me wanna cum I tells ya.

Seroxat withdrawal sucks large, up to 8 days and zaps (Parathesia), profuse
sweating, Hallucinations or Night tremors are all kicking in.

Fiddy

*** Exclusive - what it was really like for Fiddaman during cold turkey from Seroxat - here we bring you Day 8

Seroxat Paxil withdrawal - I WENT TO HELL AND BACK

Paxil / Seroxat withdrawal and shame

Paxil / Seroxat withdrawal video - how was it for you?

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Tuesday 20th April - Liverpool, Carling Academy2
Wednesday 21st April - Wolves, Robin2
Thursday 22nd April - Bristol, Carling Academy
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Music break - Casbah Club

Did Bob Fiddaman fake the whole thing ?

Comming soon a Bob Fiddaman Exclusive

Evie Pringle (Evelyn Pringle) asked if she knew Fiddaman was "not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRI"

Just don't expect an answer !

SEVERING TIES WITH THE MHRA - Bob is done

http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/2009/11/severing-ties-with-mhra.html

SEVERING TIES WITH THE MHRA

"Coming Soon: Why I no longer wish to have my name associated with the MHRA"

SEROXAT SUFFERERS - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED: "Coming Soon: Why I no longer wish to have my name associated with the MHRA"



The Party's Over, it's time to call it a day.
They've burst your pretty balloon and taken the moon away.

It's time to wind up the masquerade.
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid.

The Party's Over.The candles ficker and dim.
You danced and dreamed through the night,
it seemed to be right just being with him.

Now you must wake up, all dreams must end.
Take off your make up, The Party's Over.
It's all over, my friend.

Now you must wake up, all dreams must end.

Take off your make up, The Party's Over.
It's all over, my friend

Traitor Bob Fiddaan is "not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRI"

BOB FIDDAMAN said...





"In the words of former Paxil activist, Rob Robinson: "







“It might surprise you to hear that I am not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRIs — with the exception of Paxil (which should be pulled from the marketplace immediately.) My position on the matter is simply pragmatic: Since the regulatory door guarding the SSRI cage has been sprung there's really no way to close it. Today, the SSRI industry feeds (and sleeps with) its own handler, the Food and Drug Administration, and gorges on billions in pill profits every year. There is simply no easy way to kill the SSRI beast now that it is on the prowl; the most one can hope to do is corner it ... and hold it at bay.”



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Latest *** Healy's Protocol further downgraded by Fiddaman to "two penneth"

8 hours ago by BOB FIDDAMAN

http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/2009/11/response-from-mhra-is-seroxatpaxil.html

"The MHRA have met with Dr. David Healy, something I urged them to do at the meeting. Healy met and put forward his two penneth regarding SSRi withdrawal. [Minutes of meeting with David Healy] More recently I have met and corresponded ..."

SEROXAT SUFFERERS - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED - http://fiddaman.blogspot.com/

Fiddaman downgrades Prof Healy's protocol to a guidance!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uksurvivors/message/50989

August 16th 2009 & it's called Healy Withdrawal Protocol

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Traitor Rob Robinson said - am not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRIs

“It might surprise you to hear that I am not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRIs — with the exception of Paxil (which should be pulled from the marketplace immediately.) My position on the matter is simply pragmatic: Since the regulatory door guarding the SSRI cage has been sprung there's really no way to close it. Today, the SSRI industry feeds (and sleeps with) its own handler, the Food and Drug Administration, and gorges on billions in pill profits every year. There is simply no easy way to kill the SSRI beast now that it is on the prowl; the most one can hope to do is corner it ... and hold it at bay.”

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Who is Amy Philo & which SSRI tipped her over the edge - certainly it wasn't GSK Seroxat

Amy Philo’s YouTube Videos including her personal story of Zoloft-induced psychosis and homicidal and suicidal urges during the postpartum period:

Fiddaman contacts GSK ...does that make him a "pharma whore" ?

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/criticalpsychiatry/message/60951

Almost 2 weeks have gone by and I've heard nothing.

With that in mind I contacted GlaxoSmithKline - once again, a simple email asking if paroxetine is a teratogenic

Clearly Fiddaman's purpose was to prevent free speech - Bob tried to bully long standing memberS of UKsurvivors

Traitor Bob Fiddaman is "not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRIs "

BOB FIDDAMAN said...


In the words of former Paxil activist, Rob Robinson:



“It might surprise you to hear that I am not irreconcilably opposed to the sale of SSRIs — with the exception of Paxil (which should be pulled from the marketplace immediately.) My position on the matter is simply pragmatic: Since the regulatory door guarding the SSRI cage has been sprung there's really no way to close it. Today, the SSRI industry feeds (and sleeps with) its own handler, the Food and Drug Administration, and gorges on billions in pill profits every year. There is simply no easy way to kill the SSRI beast now that it is on the prowl; the most one can hope to do is corner it ... and hold it at bay.”

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Well Rob where are the clinics you promised to fund with your GSK compensation ???

I am pledging to use whatever monetary damages a jury awards me in my lawsuit against Paxil's manufacturer and distributor, GlaxoSmithKline, for use by SSRI Citizen (www.SSRIcitizen.org) to:

1) Dramatically expand the organization's ability to warn the public about the dangers of Paxil, and to build a state of the art Internet-based Paxil information clearinghouse.



2) If possible, create a free (U.S.domiciled) Paxil withdrawal clinic, along with a Paxil withdrawal victims' hardship fund.

Rob Robinson pledges to use his GSK compensation to create "Paxil Withdrawal Clinics"

I am pledging to use whatever monetary damages a jury awards me in my lawsuit against Paxil's manufacturer and distributor, GlaxoSmithKline, for use by SSRI Citizen

create a free (U.S.domiciled) Paxil withdrawal clinic, along with a Paxil withdrawal victims' hardship fund.



http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8968

I appreciate the question. Like Darcy I am here in an effort to help others whose lives have been mauled, mutilated or otherwise maimed by this hideous poison masquerading as an "safe and effective" ... drug.




As to why "now" I don't know. Perhaps because I am far enough along in recovery to be able to do it. And because I believe, quite simply, it is the right thing to do.



I know what many of you are going through because I've taken everything Paxil can dish out -- and then some. Only survivors like me fully understand how horrific Paxil withdrawal can be. It defies description. How the Banda Aceh region looks now after the Asian tsunami struck is what Paxil withdrawal was like for me (and for many of you who frequent PaxilProgress) -- utter and incomprehensible devastation on an unimaginable scale. Family and friends, supportive as they may be, are simply not able to connect in as powerful and meaningful a way as one Paxil victim can to another. I see myself as sharing something special with all of you who are going through (or have survived) this monstrous once-in-a-lifetime trial. In a way WE are family.



That said, you'll appreciate why I am pledging to use whatever monetary damages a jury awards me in my lawsuit against Paxil's manufacturer and distributor, GlaxoSmithKline, for use by SSRI Citizen (www.SSRIcitizen.org) to:



1) Dramatically expand the organization's ability to warn the public about the dangers of Paxil, and to build a state of the art Internet-based Paxil information clearinghouse.



2) If possible, create a free (U.S.domiciled) Paxil withdrawal clinic, along with a Paxil withdrawal victims' hardship fund.



GSK is, in no manner whatsoever, interested in doing either of the above ... I believe the world deserves no less. What do you think?

A Question for Rob Robinson - paxilprogress

A Question for Rob Robinson - paxilprogress: "I appreciate the question. Like Darcy I am here in an effort to help others whose lives have been mauled, mutilated or otherwise maimed by this hideous poison masquerading as an 'safe and effective' ... drug"

Rob Robinson described as a liability

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRI-Crusaders/message/22986








Frankly, I believe you are currently more of a liability than a

help to the movement that wants psychiatry and drug companies to stop

injuring people with psychotropic drugs. Until you find again what

you once knew and are willing to stand up and speak out about it, I,

for one, am boycotting your website, and I am suggesting to the 530

members of my psychotropic drug recovery group that they do so also.





A most puzzled and disappointed,

Catherine Creel

(Withdrawal_and_Recovery)



Entire article



Protest at GSK Criticizes Drug





http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/business/12749439.htm



Protest at Glaxo criticizes drug



Demonstrators, who planned a 3-day vigil, were demanding recall of

antidepressant Paxil.



By Thomas Ginsberg

Inquirer Staff Writer

Rob Robinson - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project

Rob Robinson - Scientology Service Completions Truth About Scientology Statistics Project: "Rob Robinson - Scientology Service Completions"

Jofre podcast - yeah Play it again Sam

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Reality check shows seroxat group leaders are only in this for the compensation

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Reality check - Prozac worse than Seroxat for cardiovascular birth defects

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/criticalpsychiatry/message/60955

We followed up 410 paroxetine, 314 fluoxetine first-trimester exposed pregnancies and 1467 controls. After exclusion of genetic and cytogenetic anomalies, there was a higher rate of major anomalies in the SSRI groups compared with the controls [paroxetine 18/348 (5.2%), fluoxetine 12/253 (4.7%) and controls 34/1359 (2.5%)]. The main risk applied to cardiovascular anomalies [paroxetine 7/348 (2.0%), crude odds ratio (OR) 3.47, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.13, 10.58; fluoxetine 7/253 (2.8%), crude OR, 4.81 95% CI 1.56, 14.71; and controls 8/1359 (0.6%)]. On logistic regression analysis only cigarette smoking of ≥10 cigarettes dayâˆ'1 and fluoxetine exposure were significant variables for cardiovascular anomalies. The adjusted ORs for paroxetine and fluoxetine were 2.66 (95% CI 0.80, 8.90) and 4.47 (95% CI 1.31, 15.27), respectively.

CONCLUSION

This study suggests a possible association between cardiovascular anomalies and first-trimester exposure to fluoxetine.

Keywords: cardiovascular anomalies, congenital anomalies, fluoxetine, paroxetine, pregnancy,

SEROXAT SUFFERERS - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED: Paroxetine - The Teratogenic Effect by Bob Fiddaman

SEROXAT SUFFERERS - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED: Paroxetine - The Teratogenic Effect by Bob Fiddaman: "Paroxetine - The Teratogenic Effect by Bob Fiddaman

Now there's a word, 'Teratogenic' - one most of you will be unaware of - one that has caused me considerable confusion over the past few weeks. I shall explain.

The recent GSK vs Kilker case saw files flood the Internet, many of which, if not all, are featured on this blog and my sister blog, GlaxoSmithKline Internal Files

What I find astounding is that this word, 'Teratogenic' and/or 'Teratogen' often appears throughout the Kilker files. A quick search of the word/s simplifies it into laymans terms"


READ ON - http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/criticalpsychiatry/message/60950

criticalpsychiatry : Message: compensation for use & cost of withdrawal - of Seroxat

criticalpsychiatry : Message: compensation for use & cost of withdrawal - of Seroxat: "compensation for use & cost of withdrawal - of Seroxat"

criticalpsychiatry : Message: UK advocacy group is preparing a lawsuit against GSK - Seroxat

criticalpsychiatry : Message: UK advocacy group is preparing a lawsuit against GSK - Seroxat: "UK advocacy group is preparing a lawsuit against GSK - Seroxat"

SEROXAT - MY VIOLENT OBSESSION

Seroxat was withdrawn from Paxil's Rob Robinson in 18 days

Eventually concluding he had a drug dependency, he found a specialist who took him off the drug in 18 days.

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Did West Mids Police Advise MH Drug Blogger On Blog Tactics ?

USERWATCH FEATURE ....

Another strange story emerges from UK survivors . The last time we reported about alleged date rape of UK parrots we saw a blogger on UKSurvivors had used posts from Uksurvivors to claim they had been accused of date rape when it was clear it was the fantasy parrots and pirates that had been doing the dirty , or flirty or whatever .....There was quite a flap caused though

Wellllll....UKSurvivors ....Ahhh welllll yesss .. It issss a mental health forum, and wonderful beastly imaginings do go on there.

There are posts about snakes and fire creatures we hear, and death moans of socially excluded ghosts that waft in and out of flats and others that go around and around in circles and repeat themselves endlessly ..... It is said that many other ghosts of old text at UKSurvivors actually beg for eviction or deletion ....

However nowwww, there appears to be a half claim of some kind of communication with the West Mids Police. Noooo its not spiritualism ... Its something else though ..

It appears to amount to some kind of alleged nod of agreement or "implied police blog advice"

Oh yeahhhhhh ...Really ? They've gone from the Bobbies to the Bloggies then ...

Here's the post :

What we see in that Seroxat growling blog is a strand of some good argument about part of the SSRI diversion of the human condition into the meds-pit of delayed reactions and part voluntary emotional unconsciousness .. Yes, all done by "professionals" on the hapless patient in mental or emotional distress ..... "Bugger your social history and family problems etc... take a drug .. "

The blog favours growling about Seroxat - that's where a class action is going which it supports and compensation is the golden bone in its teeth .......

Yet the conflict between personalities it features is sparky in the meds-bulldog-pits too at Uksurvivors, though there is an argument put forward which is, Seroxat may not be the worst SSRI for its after effects after coming off it . In that case the class action planned to do it down and get compensation from the maker GlaxoSmithKline may fail since the action appears to framed in such a way that Seroxat is being legally tested as the worst case SSRI scenario ....

Is Jeremy Bryce who supports that argument and who is mentioned in the blog quite right therefore to create a contextual argument of caution regarding that ? Its an intelligent point we think ..

It could well be that he has a thought out serious point which implies jeopardy to further cases for compensation against SSRI's if the Seroxat case falls ...

Who knows what fate will bring ...... The Money king or the sting ?.... That's in the hands of future law.. But caution should be heeded ..

However that aside we have been sent a picture from a polite source which confirms the West Midlands Parrot Flying Squad cannot take the fiddamen.blogspot claims about them seriously..

Rob Robinson was withdrawan from Seroxat / Paxil by a "specialist" in 18 days

Trouble in Prozac - November 28, 2005:

"A rock climber of renown--Climbing magazine once put him on its cover--Robinson, 45, says his experience with SSRIs started in 1998. He had committed to do a traveling exhibition on climbing, but the project stressed him out and interfered with his sleep, so his doctor prescribed Glaxo's Paxil. After a few weeks on the drug, Robinson says, 'I felt calmer. I thought, 'That's good.'' Quitting it after a half-year, though, 'I started having what I now know are withdrawal symptoms,' he asserts, including muscle spasms, extreme sensitivity to sound, and 'horrible electric-shock sensations in my head.' He went back on Paxil to alleviate the symptoms. Eventually concluding he had a drug dependency, he found a specialist who took him off the drug in 18 days.

He said J Bryce is a GSK quisling - we say Mark Harvey of Hugh James is a liar

Rob Robinson - "was a liability to the movement"

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November 07, 2009 9:51:51 AM SEROXAT SUFFERERS - STAND UP AND BE COUNTED: Rob Robinson - "was a liability to the movement"

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Liar award goes to Mark Harvey of Hugh James who called J Bryce a GSK Quisling

-------Original Message-------

From: Mark Harvey

Date: 15/07/2005 16:33:05

To: ecyrb.m.j.j; Melissa Duckhouse

Subject: RE: So who's team are you on ????



I will only continue to deal with GSK through their lawyers not through their quisling.

Paxil trophy gunman Donald Schell was also taking zolpidem

Two paroxetine and two zolpidem pills were not accounted
for at the time of his death, and toxicology
indicated 13 ng/mL of paroxetine and 11
ng/mL of zolpidem in his blood.

Tobin v. SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals - following facts were stipulated by both parties

Tobin v. SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals


(SKB)1 is the first paroxetine, wrongful death/suicide
case to go to a jury trial in the United States. The
following facts were stipulated by both parties.
On February 13, 1998, Donald Schell, a 60-yearold
man living in Gillette, Wyoming, shot and killed
his 55-year-old wife, 31-year-old daughter, 9-monthold
granddaughter, and then himself. When discovered
the following day, the victims had multiple
large- and small-caliber gunshot wounds to their
heads and shoulders. Mr. Schell had a large wound to
his head and a .357 revolver near his hand. The coroner
estimated that the deaths had occurred in the
early morning. Mr. Schell had been married since
1961. He had a history of depression and had been
treated at times with psychotherapy, fluoxetine, trazodone,
lorazepam, and imipramine. After becoming
depressed again, he saw his physician on February
10, 1998, to obtain sleeping pills. He received a diagnosis
of depression and was prescribed zolpidem
for sleep and paroxetine (Paxil) for the depression.
Two paroxetine and two zolpidem pills were not accounted
for at the time of his death, and toxicology
reports indicated 13 ng/mL of paroxetine and 11
ng/mL of zolpidem in his blood.

Collateral information2 indicates Mr. Schell had
experienced five prior episodes of depression that
were serious enough to keep him out of work. He had
a history of not following treatment recommendations
given by multiple psychiatrists, problems at
work involving a threatened lawsuit, and other
stressors.

Paxil gunman Donald Schell was he hallucinating earlier on Prozac asks Dr Healy

In February 1998, Donald Schell, a 60 year old man, living in Gillette, Wyoming, became withdrawn and began to complain to his wife, Rita, that he had difficulty sleeping. Schell had first had nervous problems in the mid-1980s and between then and 1998 was to have approximately five nervous episodes, centered on work stressors or bereavements. Don and Rita appeared to most of those who knew them to be a close couple who were married for 37 years. They had two children, Michael and Deborah. Deborah married Tim Tobin in 1992 and in 1997 she gave birth to the Schell's first grandchild, Alyssa. Deborah and Alyssa, now 9 months old, came down from Billings Montana to stay for a few days with Don and Rita in February 1998.




Don's means of handling his nerves was to take time off work, as he could easily get someone to deputize for him. He went for walks with his wife, spent time talking with friends or Tim if he was around, in addition to taking care of his diet. Ever since he had had a good exposure to a Dr Suhaney in 1990, if he remained low after a week or two, either Rita or Don himself would suggest going along to see a doctor. Suhaney had first put Schell on Prozac and noted that it made him tense, anxious and jittery, despite the fact that he was on several antidotes such as Inderal, Ativan and Desyrel. Suhaney stopped Prozac and put Don Schell on imipramine to which he responded rapidly[i]. What Suhaney didn't know was that Schell may have even been hallucinating while on Prozac. Having responded to imipramine in 1990, in two further brief episodes in the 1990s, Schell was put on tricyclics and responded rapidly.



In February of 1998, when he began to complain about his sleep, Don and Rita went to see a primary care physician, Dr Patel. Dr Patel did a thorough examination, which included administering rating scales that indicated Schell's main problem was poor sleep and that he felt hopeful about the future and thought well of himself. Patel diagnosed an anxiety state and, unaware of the significance of a prior adverse response to Prozac, put Don Schell on Paxil, without any covering antidotes. Forty-eight hours later Schell put three bullets from two different guns through Rita's head, as well as through Deborah's head and through Alyssa's head before shooting himself through the head







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